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Hoppo
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« on: 08 February, 2019, 20:02:12 PM »

Hi all iv got a 2003 4life 2.5

Iv been having trouble on a cold start!
when i turn the key itís turning over with white smoke coming out the pipe
i have put a full set of ngk glow plugs, No difference
i have put a new fuel filter one No difference
i have blanked off the Egr, No difference
i have also tried to hand prime it, just in case the fuel filter is draining back
And still no change!!
iv had no fuel leaks,

And ideas or things i could try? or tests i could do??
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« Reply #1 on: 09 February, 2019, 13:06:47 PM »

Check the crank sensor blade and the sensor
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2004 Animal Red/silver,Stainless roll bar,bull bar,rear step bars,EGR and cooler removed, Black leather,Boost gauge and vacuum gauge fitted,fully chromed door handles in and out and loads more. Now Decat
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« Reply #2 on: 11 February, 2019, 13:24:50 PM »

check plugs are actually getting voltage,   try bump starting it, if it runs like poo or wont start check the timing belt and crank sensor
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03 4work, Cummins 6BTA 5.9L engine, 40" round things, and all the accompanying hassle involved.
 
No, my rear windows dont go up either Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: 12 February, 2019, 20:55:45 PM »

check plugs are actually getting voltage,   try bump starting it, if it runs like poo or wont start check the timing belt and crank sensor

I bump started it this evening and it started strait away.
i have checked that iím getting voltage to the glow plugs for about 6 seconds!

I really am at a loss with it as i canít seem to figure it out!
Crank sensor is next!
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« Reply #4 on: 14 February, 2019, 18:50:34 PM »

if its running fine once started keep at the plugs nothing else
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03 4work, Cummins 6BTA 5.9L engine, 40" round things, and all the accompanying hassle involved.
 
No, my rear windows dont go up either Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: 15 February, 2019, 00:08:27 AM »

I replaced the timing and balance belts some time ago. Prior to that the truck would take 3 to 4 revolutions after turning the key to fire up. During the work of replacing the belts it's necessary to remove the crank sensor which I did carefully. Before refitting it I cleaned a lot of metal dust from inside the sensor - carb cleaner+ brush+ airline etc. I guess it was wear metal from the belt pulleys. The cam and pump timing were no different with the new belts to the old belts. Since then it starts first turn of the key after preheat hot or cold. I haven't got a scope to check the signal from the crank sensor but it would seem it's a stronger or more defined signal which presumably kicks the ECU into energising the electronic pump control better, faster, earlier whatever!
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